just curious most all the ads with a very few exceptions wants 20 to 40 range,i m relativly new at this lifestyle but enjoy it alot just curious if theres a age thing cause 8 to 80 blind cripple crazy walk creep or cral i love playing with them all,so is age the big factor or is that more of a giude line than a rule?? thanks bill

Maybe its just the way you present yourself. I am 50 and all I get is younger women interested in me . Staying neat, clean and in shape doesn't hurt and acting with class is a great lure. The cave man style is
not in.

In reply to maxhnb:
As we get older we may not be as healthy as you seem to be. Regardless of what we do or eat we may not be able to hold our weight. Please reframe from making remarks as to how we present ourselves... You could be right in some respects but to be judgemental... Not in this lifestyle.. Interestingly enough there have been surbeys on this and other sites that say personality is more important than looks... While I have to agree with this it means that one has to meet face to face for the personality to really come through... There is some merrit in presenting the best that one can to catch the eye of possible partners but I believe that what one says is just as important.

A good point was made, however in that many people are looking for younger couples. I would imagine that that has to do with the perception that a younger person will be a better sex partner. Do you disagree that many are looking for younger people? Just read the profiles.. I have to chuckle at people who are looking for people younger than themselves.... Does that mean that these people think that they are better than their contemporaries????

I just hate it when someone says, in effect I'm neat and holsome and others may be slobs....
Ray

I too have seen an inclination toward youth for presumably sexual durability and youthful energy. Yet what I find is very common, is that
young people appreciate a healthy presence. None of us are what we were in our teens but we offer experience and a certain charm.

It is also a nurturing presence that seems to make a difference to women these days and not the exposed lavish beer guy, and swagger of chauvinism.

Sure we all have some middle age spread and I know you know I am not attacking that. Simply look at the photo accompanying the statement I was responding too and the style of communication that accompanies it . I am at 235 lbs down from 250 and working at it .

One thing I notice in profiles is that people do not want pushy or rude people. they try to present their best side and want to share that because it makes them feel good.

I can understand how people want to have a beautiful experience and how it heightens all the sensations. No offense intended and certainly not available to be applied.

In reply to maxhnb:
not a problem no offence taken the young ones are easyly impressed and a moon light stroll with a bottle of don perreon and 2 or 3 dozen roses done that its ok but get on 88 cubic inches of h-d hog with a gal on the back thats a strate laced kind of gal with a biker fantice and brother that will tell you if your in shape i can pull off armonee can you pull the biker roll devirceife brother theres a lot of differnt flowers to smele hope to try them all life to short to limett yourself enjoy it in 100yrs from now noone will even remember you where here,lots of luck bill pe sorry don t spell well but if you piss off us plumbers we don t get mad just make your tolit into a boday?

In reply to xplorr94248:
hi and thanks but hes got a life and so do i different in many ways if someone takes you at your worst,well then i got to figure that when i pull up in a strech and fly to the islands for the weekend that they problly be ok with that,found alot of things look ok with a coat of paint but its the same car that runs bad might not be real pretty but can run with the best of them but please don t get upset on my acount cuz baby its all good every day above dirt is a good one and to be a chovanse pig i m damn proud to say i m not the last got two sons raised them right to open doors pay the bill and bring flowers and all the other things gals seem to do for them selves,had 26yrs of the father image ward cleavers dead lets have some fun if the young ones can keep up thanks bill

In reply to maxhnb:
max not attacking your panaush or demeaner but i got to make a sujestion on a thursday night pull up in full leathers on a big hog to the local hyatt gointo the lounge and drink a beer from a bottle about 9 to 10 pm you might just rethink your position on ladies wanting just pretty educatted style all i want to know is if 20 to 40 means not to email them if your older???????i can type it slower but its the same qustion????????????thanks bill ps im shooting for the group orgie side not the lowlight side but appericate you taking the time to give your input thanks bill

Hey Iam 36 years old and absolutly love a woman that is years older than me. I am recently corresponding with a couple that are 57 yrs old and she is a knockout! I dont know what the hang up is with the young one but I belive the older ones are experienced and play a lot less mindgames. They are.......well...more mature..I LOVE THAT! If there is any mature couples or woman that arent getting responses because of there age get ahold of us..WE LOVE YOU!!!! waterman

I want to reply to all. First of all I am a 37 yr old female, unfortunately my mind stopped at 24. I have a hard time accepting that I am almost 40. It isn't that you're over 50, it's that you project the fear of our mortality. I still have a problem accepting invites from 40 yr olds, especially if they look 40+.

Because I still believe that I am 24, in my mind, I truly believe that I am deserving of a 24 yr olds attention, not the attention of my father's peers. And yes a youthful persona does definitely help, along with a good sense of humor, but it isn't cure all. I think what we all are looking for is someone who can help us achieve our fantasizies. And screwing an old, beer drinking, fat man (not pointing any fingers) is not high on my list.

In reply to kris:
dear krissie i feel so sorry for you ,you ll never know how happy i can make you ! i got to disagree with you cause a new car is pretty to look at but you just can t beat a classic for stlye and class,24 is ok for the eago but has a tendency to crapp out about half home,need a cruzzer not a sprinter i m going a long ride not a trip to 7-11 but thanks for your imput bill

I understand the difference between the cruiser and the sprinter. But the cruiser doesn't have to look like it predates my birth to be a good and enjoyable ride. Yeah, 57 chevys can be nice, but how much rust is really in the body? If I'm going to take a ride, it needs to look like it's not going to break down. I don't think that it's an age problem I think it's a fantasy problem. 28 year old women who want to have sex on a hog with the facade of a bad boy would probably highly desire you. But most of us fantasize about almost unattainable things, that's why they are fantasies. I fantasize about model type men, for most of my life they were unattainable to me. Being with them makes me feel good about myself. When I am in their presence I am not looking for a discussion on physics, I am strictly looking for desire.
And you can't tell me that it isn't highly desirable for you not to be with someone who looks like a Victoria Secrets model. If it wasn't this wouldn't be an issue for you. Would it?

In reply to kris:oh no you did not go there i spent almost 20 yrs bounceing strippers men and women let s just say daved copperfeild is a rank amerture when it comes to a lusions what you see might not even be the sex you want or you thought it was?but it looks like a model i m sorta the u.n when it comes to women race creed or color age aren t as much fun as adutide and skill so i wish you luck but this 1955 has no rust and has been mantained well and theres no recker in the near futer,as to fatasie i would love the broad sitting next to me to shut up while im typing a email now thats a dream!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I guess people don't pay attention to people and want to get together with anyone so long as they look good and the perception is that young would be a better lay. I'm well past 50 and am married and have a girlfriend who is well below 50 and can play with quite a few ladies that have found out that quality is better than quantity(like the old story goes... I was once good all night now I'm good once a night... or if you can't cut the mustard you can still lick the jar it came in).. In this format people look for their ideal but rarely find same. It doesn't matter.. If you find someone who can converse with you and has a sense of humor and a good personality ...most of the time that will work for many. We belong to 3 clubs and a number of sites like this one..(Not really like this one.. this site is quite nice as sites go and one of our favorites) I look for profiles of people who smile and look like thay enjoy life and sex... New People ask why no one has contacted them and they have to contact others to make it work for them. But smile and think about putting soempersonality in your profile and pictures.. Age becomes less of a problem for others.. Oh and participating here can also give others an idea what kind of people you are.... When I can't more we'll get out of the lifestyle but for now we older group need to teach these younger people that we're not dead, that we can be fun...even more fun than the sexy 20 year olds.. That experience with people and experience in the bedroom and confort with ourselves will contribute to fun in the lifestyle...

You want young...it's like wine... it gets better with age and may decline but mature wine is a blessing as with people...

In reply to xplorr94248:hi ray 18 incher last night all i know for shure is that if the mind can coseve it the mouth convey it all agree on it everones has a great time doing it well then you got to know that a women planed it,just like to say thank you god fro wemen !1(hay ray to much or just enough praticing kiss up ?)but i know how to fish????????

ha ray didn t know you were a cradel robber i perferr the old bull and young bull up on the hill with a vally of cows before them the young bull said lets run down and do a few the old bull replied hell no lets walk down and do them all?just food for though?makes you go humm???????????????????????????got to go almost 6pm here got to feed the fish here fishey fishey wish you were here the 2nd ones for you bill ps. say hi to that cutie with the eye problem love yous bill lol

In reply to kris:i think i may owe you a apploge for making light of your dream din t mean to sorry but 40 50 60 there just # sorta score card like a notch on a gun i just can conseve of a unachieable dream if it makes you feel good you go girl but dreams do come true it could happen to you heared that once somewhere hum hate it when the memmr goses well i gess i walddel to the geryatrices ward and remmanis now ok i m sorry not funny hope all your dreams come true and i just want to know if fabbeo shows up do we send him away i heard he was pushing 40 damn nere ??????i know exceptions to every thing i really do wish you the best bill

Well.....we would LOVE to have connected with a couple in their 40's or even 50's....(we are 39 & 40). The idea of connecting with a mature couple that knows what they want...and is secure in their relationship was/is appealing. Also..we figured they would be in the same stage or phase of life as us...i.e. scraping together money for college tuitions ....and therefore needing to sell their bodies by the pound to make ends meet....ha ha ha
But seriously...age is not a huge factor...it's more important to feel comfortable and attracted to the couple you pic....don't ya think????

In reply to luckycharm:
IF people involved in swinging are looking for a relationship, not necessarily an LTR or a love thing but friends first or must know them as opposed to the Lets not worry about anything but having great sex for the sake of sex then yes connecting with a couple who is secure and comfortable is the way to go. On the other hand, If a couple is looking for raw sex with one or as meny as they can fit into a lifetime then knowing a couple is not so important. As to the age thing we find it refreshing to be with younger couples sometime. Sometimes couples more our age seem right.. but I like women as young as my daughters sometimes. My current lover is some 15 years my junior and her husband is 10 years, my wifes junior. Sometimes it's nice to have that settled comfort but then it's also nice to have the freshness of youth as well

Ray

In reply to luckycharm:
We agree with you guys. We enjoy couple of all ages but have had our best orgasms with the most mature ones. Alex loves older women and he opened me up to older men. For us age is not really an issue but usually younger couples have a maturity problem which turns us off. We never had that problem with a couple in their 50's.

WE WANT OLDER ... no really 40-65 is fine as long as you are appealing to us both.

well i agree with portcpl.Age is nice younger but your in a hurry to pleaseas I got older now I love to take my time enjoy whats happening and make it feel great .I agree that younger is nice but us old guys still love the taste of things never goes away and is better now.Heck at 60 now I love it better and longer sessions and not in a hurry ok C ya`s

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